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Old 07-04-2007, 12:38 PM
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Put politics aside for one minute...?

Do you honestly believe that Libby deserves jail time?

Richard Armitage who could hardly be called a pro bush Supporter gave Plames name to Novak.

This should be enough for most people to go oh ok..why is he not being tried?

answer politics. Democrats wanted a bigger fish to fry and that was in the whitehouse. Now heres whats developing, Democrats want to make a big deal out of nothing. The law that was suposedly broken wasnt really even broken, the person who wrote the law even believed that it was a stretch to try someone in this particular instance. Then in true political fashion, instead of being able to get someone for the "Crime" you get them for something else. This was Libby's fall he couldnt recall a meeting that had at the time happend months ago. There were notes of it that a reporter had so bam got him for Perjury. Perjury of what ..lying about something to do with a NON crime? Even the prosecuter doesnt have anything to charge someone for the "crime" so there,,
will never be a charge in the plame affair. why? because there was no crime.

Ill be watching and responding to what folks say. Please refrain from stupid comments, use well thought out arguments if you disagree with me. AND PLEASE READ MY ENTIRE POST. thanks
...sheesh come on folks. I DID FREEKING ASK NICELY FOR YOU TO READ MY ENTIRE POST, there are a couple of you totally ignoring, once again that we do know who leaked plames name. He even admited to it. His name is Richard Armitage. Read what i said about him.
From everything that i read about why libby perjured himself is that he didnt contridict himself but there was a contradiction between what he said and what some reporter had taken notes on. Even if Libby recalled what he said 100%, their would still be NO CHARGES.. thats what most are not following. By the way i didnt mean to imply that he was just saying he "didnt recall something" i mean that he said he recalled it one way and the reporters notes had it another
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Old 07-04-2007, 12:40 PM
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Your right, there will be no additional charges.
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Old 07-04-2007, 01:20 PM
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You are absolutely right that there will never be a charge for a crime about outing a CIA agent, because there absolutely never was any violation to begin with. Armitage, who apparently for political reasons kept quiet for 2 years that he was the source of the leak,wasn't guilty of outing a CIA for two reasons, first and foremost, Plame was not covert (that's a requirement for the violation), and it has to be an intentional leak, which it clearly wasn't.

As for Libby, we truly have to be careful when talking about a NON-crime. True, there wasn't any crime to begin with, so there shouldn't have been an investigation. Even so, it is still possible to perjure oneself and cover-up. And you are right, this is what it all came down to. Was it Libby's imperfect memory, or was he trying to cover up for a non-crime? The jury decided the latter.

Now, will Fitzgerald ever be brought up on criminal charges, or ethics violations, since it is apparent that he knew that Armitage was the source of the leak, very early on, but pursued the investigation anyway? I'm afraid the answer the answer will be "no" because President Bush doesn't have the kahunas to have Gonzales pursue that one.
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Old 07-04-2007, 02:10 PM
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The truth is that any action by the liberals, whether it be unlawful, unjust, or even unconstitutional, is OK as long as they succeed at hurting a republican or the republican party.

What is really scary is that liberals have never, and probably never will go after terrorists with such determination, wreckless abandon, or rabid aggressiveness. Why would they? They wouldn't ever do anything that could help America, could they?
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